That sounds great to me. Like you said, we can always try something else out later, and this is closer to a crossroads point for Maria. So, maybe something like...I don't know, Altaïr's off fucking around whatever the hell city they're in and she pokes the apple and SUDDENLY ROBERT in a hail of sparkly magical plot bullshit? Or something. Those Roman assholes who came before built some trolling capabilities into the thing.
Ahahaha oh yes that is fine. My version of historical accuracy when RPing this fandom mainly involves pestering my English friend (because she JUST KNOWS how things were a thousand years ago) and rolling around Wikipedia.
That's basically how everyone works the Apple anyway, so it works for me! Maybe it's some recreation out of her memory - not real so much as a projection that thinks it's real, something the came-befores made up to pass the time and remind them of lost loved ones or something. Or to remind people they hate of enemies. Trolls to the last and then some. She winds up accidentally triggering that and BOOM?
SAME HERE, except instead of a friend I have a handful of books and terrible movies to supplement me. (Kingdom of Heaven should not count and yet here I am)
Perf. And honestly in terms on interaction and characters being confused it doesn't really matter if he's real-real or just applicious-real. BOOM.
Hahahaha that makes me laugh harder than I really should because said English friend just recommended Kingdom of Heaven to me today and I'm debating picking up the extended cut just for "research." And the only reason I haven't picked up Alamut, the inspiration/basis for a lot of AC1, is because lololol huge list of unread books already sigh.
Pretty much. He's ghost-real and that's fine enough for me. Plus that way she can run him through if he gets it in his mind to stop her before she loses her way too much. Do you want to set up a thing in here/in a journal and we can go from there? OR if you're busy I can start something up! It'd probably be in his journal.
Oh is it a good reference? I was never sure - I've heard reviews go both ways. I don't have the extended edition, unfortunately, but I think there's still some gift cards left I could use ... I can absolutely see the inspiration in that book, holy god damn. I'd never even heard of it. Maybe I should grab it. I've got zero books to read ATM so that might be a good thing for this weekend.
I guess I should probably start something since it'd be her apple-poking to kick the whole shebang off--it'll probably be tomorrow b/c I have to crash earlier than usual tonight or tomorrow, though, so if you're super raring to go and want to set something up I that'd be fine too. Actual tagging it on my end would just come tomorrow also. Bluh, sleep schedules.
I'm told it's a good reference for the historical climate of the time--not sure about specific events, but I do keep hearing repeatedly that the extended edition is a much better film. And Alamut, yeah, seriously--I added it to my wish list a couple months ago after reading an old interview from when they were working on AC1 and a staffer namechecked it. I know I'm going to chuckle every time they bring out "nothing is true, everything is permitted." Because I'm a dork.
That'd be fine - I can reply whenever you're ready, no rush! Depending on how tomorrow goes I might not be online until later in the evening anyway. Just toss me a link and I'll grab it like a starving lion. Or hawk, to make appropriate animal jokes.
I'll have to try and find it again, then - I bought my original copy thinking it was extended. At this point it's probably pretty cheap. HAH, I probably will too. I'll spend the whole thing just replacing the characters with the AC ones. I'm terrible at literature and no-one can stop me.
I'm so sorry! I really wanted to get the start written Friday during the day, but work got away from me and then family arrived to deliver furniture and organize forcefully organize thing and there was all kinds of running around and it wasn't until last night that things got back to normal.
BUT HERE IT IS. I hope it doesn't suck. Forgive the WORDS WORDS WORDS I pretty much always have to start with a plethora of them. But I'm super happy to have it up in any case. c:
Man, I want to be terrible at literature too. Maybe I'll try snagging it for an upcoming trip. Plane entertainment!
HEY IT'S TOTALLY COOL. These sorts of things tend to come up at the least convenient times, so no worries!
IT'S BEAUTIFUL and endless words are never a problem, especially for a start. Especially with AC characters being the stubborn bastards they are. I'll tag immediately!
It's ironic because I spent my entire English major doing nothing but literature and accompanying analysis. On the other hand, it was mostly 19th century Britlit. That balances out somewhere, I think.
THANK YOU ahhh happiness :D APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR IMPENDING BRAINSPLOSION, APPLEGHOST ROBERT except not really.
That does kind of work. I spent most of my creative writing major doing nothing but bullshitting my way through papers, which is amazingly useful for RP :|b
PRETTY MUCH. That was the entirety of every lit analysis paper I did. I should have stuck with it, I could probably be trolling academia with the stupidest theories by now if I had. OH WELL.
lies and viscera--GOD DAMN IT FLOATY DREAMWIDTH BOX STOP TRIPPING ME
That is the essence of every lit paper and that's just as it should be. Comes in handy in my actual job too now that I think of it. IT'S FOR THE BEST, ACADEMIA IS LIKE CAMELOT: A SILLY PLACE.
SO HEY I had a hella fine time with that thread; would you be interested in another one at some point? I don't have the brainpower to come up with any solid ideas right now, but I'd absolutely be up for another something or nine.
Do the words "hell" and "yes" mean anything to you? That thread made me ridic happy and I am absolutely up for more. I do plan to give it a final tag with Maria, and I have a couple of future idea seedlings kicking around, but I also arrived in Japan two nights ago for a week and change (which actually made the timing for it wrapping up p. awesome) so my schedule is pretty busy and my body has no idea what time it is. But I am all kinds of up for more.
Hi! So, uh. I didn't disappear forever. Though I am terribly embarrassed. Apparently, the length of time it takes for me to get my crap together after traveling is multiplied exponentially by how far I go...and then I got caught up in various game and RL things...and then, honestly, I was just really embarrassed by how long it took me to get back to this. But I had so much fun that that is a stupid reason to not kick my own ass and reply so here I am, cringing with a sheepish smile.
And I did/do have a couple of ideas!
1. Another "touch the Apple, get a shade of Robert" thing a few years down the line for her, because I kind of like the idea of him as a ghost of Christmas past that still challenges her changed beliefs. And because I think it would be funny if Darim were visibly a work-in-progress at the time, because I am easily amused, I admit.
2. Maybe something a few years earlier, or during AC1, with her still as the loyal steward. Though this could involve either frantic perusals of wikipedia or a heaping load of bullshit because I'm learning but not that educated about the military during the Crusades.
3. There's an Assassin's Creed meme here on bakerstreet (and a thread for Maria here.)
So yeah, let me know if any/all of the above appeal to you. Hopefully I haven't been irreparably assdraggy. c:
Hey, no worries! I figured things were busier on your end and I know that traveling can end up being a big pain at pretty much every point along the way. And I don't even know how many times I've dropped tags out of embarrassment over having taken so long to get back to them, so I know the feeling - and am super excited you're still up for things! I'm always up for more Creed stuff. There's not enough of it in general. Anywhere.
1. I'd be game for that! He'd be great in that role, really. Reminding her of how terrible/great the past was and judging her for making out with the enemy. To the point of having children. Expect him to try and turn the kid to his side of thinking. (I'll admit I don't know a lot about the kids, since I've stuck mostly to the main games and it's been a while since I touched Revelations, so if there's anything I should know ahead of time let me know. Otherwise I'll scan the AC wiki.)
2. Also up for this, and also agreeing on it involving piles and piles of BS. Again, the vast majority of my Crusade-era knowledge is pulled from Kingdom of Heaven, Wikipedia, and various Crusade-era historical fiction books, so, uh ... wikipedia is probably the best bet. But I would love them being team templar together; plotting how best to maneuver around this murderous assassin offing top men left and right, maybe, or something similar? It could involve sparring. I always like a good fight scene.
3. Oh, I missed that one! I'll look at it and see if I can get a good idea off the prompts, see if there's something we can roll with there.
NEVER FEAR, I drag my ass on almost everything in life so it's never a problem for me. :3
Fun travel fact: the Air Canada counter people at Narita airport can and will run you through a private security checkpoint and haul ass to get you to your gate on time if you are terribly, terribly late to your overseas flight and arrive looking sufficiently freaked out. :D And yes I agree re: not enough creedy asses! I'm excited too.
1. Sob, and that is in itself terrible/great, especially as a recurring thing. I was thinking the next incident could possibly be when she's starting to pop out for a fun "OH DAMMIT MARIA TELL ME THAT'S NOT WHAT I THINK IT IS" sort of thing.
There's really nothing we know about the kids, other than that Darim was a hottie with Maria's eyes, Sef made them early grandparents, and both were Assassins. Oh and Darim was the one to actually kill Genghis Khan, but he didn't rate a statue, the guy who only shot his horse did. Revelations and the novel skipped almost everything regarding their happier times as a family, which is a shame, but so is the back half of Revelations :T A friend and I like to say that the whole cavalcade of misery there is just some illusion/hallucination caused by the Apple and I'm not always sure we're joking OKAY TANGENT OVER
2. Another good source is a British friend with a more extensive education in that era. Conveniently, I've got one, but they're in rather short supply. I still need to watch Kingdom of Heaven, though...and heck, I do need one more item in my Amazon basket. Done. But yes, it'd be fun to play a more idealistic (sorta) Maria.
3. And I will roll with whatever!
DRAGGING ASS: A way of life! The meme might be a logical first one since it's just been posted, but beyond that we could tackle these in whatever order, it's all fun. :3
Suddenly jealous. I have no idea what they'd do for the airlines I'd have to take. Keep me overnight, probably. Maybe I can conveniently borrow a few Canada flights ...
1. That'd be a terrible time for him to show up, which means it's ideal as far as I'm concerned and I say we go for it. Altair conveniently off doing his Assasinleader things, or whatever he was doing in the time before the actual family started? Could leave room for some interesting bitterness all around.
AHAHA hey that's a perfectly viable option. Those artifacts do seem to do nothing but spread misery for everyone whenever they show up. Cursed or just left-over first era trolling, maybe.
2. That works too! And I have to have a few Crusade-era books around here. I managed to miss the one class a few years ago that I could have taken specifically about the era, to my eternal bitterness, but over the years we've managed to accumulate more random books than is probably healthy around here so I can dig through and see what I can find. Robert was probably just as much a jerk back then, but as far as Maria went, I'd imagine well-intentioned jerkness.
I've got a long weekend coming up so I can probably go with any of these, whichever you'd prefer. At the moment I'm not coming up with anything off the meme, though it's been a hell of a week so that's probably more braindead than anything else.
BUSTS THROUGH THE WALL OF PRODUCTIVITY NOW THAT THE LONG WEEKEND IS OVER (shhh I took a sick day yesterday it still counts)
I think it may have been Japanese customer service at work, so they'd probably do the same for you. It was an interesting experience, I can say that much. An interesting, exciting, panic-sweaty experience.
1. Yeah he could be either off on some leaderly mission, or just down below doing other Assassin work while she sits and gestates. In my headcanon, Maria terrorizes the novices during sword training, but precautions and all that. If I don't get a starting post up tonight I'll endeavor to do so tomorrow. Enjoy seeing your slightly rounder protege, Zombie Robert.
2. Oh man that sounds SO COOL. Ill be bitter that I missed it too even though I'm sure I never went anywhere that had one. Probably. In the meantime my Kingdom of Heaven blu-ray arrived yesterday so maybe I'll put that in this week while I clean my living room...or maybe I'll just watch the movie.
Sorry I skipped the long weekend entirely! Part of it was eaten up by the renfaire here. I usually see at least once AC cosplayer there each visit, and this was no exception—there was an Ezio with some very nice armor accents on the outfit. Altaïr's pretty common too. Next year I want to see if I can have a Maria outfit for it. Good times, good times.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:09 am (UTC)Ahahaha oh yes that is fine. My version of historical accuracy when RPing this fandom mainly involves pestering my English friend (because she JUST KNOWS how things were a thousand years ago) and rolling around Wikipedia.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:23 am (UTC)SAME HERE, except instead of a friend I have a handful of books and terrible movies to supplement me. (Kingdom of Heaven should not count and yet here I am)
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:31 am (UTC)Hahahaha that makes me laugh harder than I really should because said English friend just recommended Kingdom of Heaven to me today and I'm debating picking up the extended cut just for "research." And the only reason I haven't picked up Alamut, the inspiration/basis for a lot of AC1, is because lololol huge list of unread books already sigh.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:39 am (UTC)Oh is it a good reference? I was never sure - I've heard reviews go both ways. I don't have the extended edition, unfortunately, but I think there's still some gift cards left I could use ... I can absolutely see the inspiration in that book, holy god damn. I'd never even heard of it. Maybe I should grab it. I've got zero books to read ATM so that might be a good thing for this weekend.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:45 am (UTC)I'm told it's a good reference for the historical climate of the time--not sure about specific events, but I do keep hearing repeatedly that the extended edition is a much better film. And Alamut, yeah, seriously--I added it to my wish list a couple months ago after reading an old interview from when they were working on AC1 and a staffer namechecked it. I know I'm going to chuckle every time they bring out "nothing is true, everything is permitted." Because I'm a dork.
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Date: 2013-05-10 02:55 am (UTC)I'll have to try and find it again, then - I bought my original copy thinking it was extended. At this point it's probably pretty cheap. HAH, I probably will too. I'll spend the whole thing just replacing the characters with the AC ones. I'm terrible at literature and no-one can stop me.
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Date: 2013-05-14 02:24 am (UTC)I'm so sorry! I really wanted to get the start written Friday during the day, but work got away from me and then family arrived to deliver furniture and organize forcefully organize thing and there was all kinds of running around and it wasn't until last night that things got back to normal.
BUT HERE IT IS. I hope it doesn't suck. Forgive the WORDS WORDS WORDS I pretty much always have to start with a plethora of them. But I'm super happy to have it up in any case. c:
Man, I want to be terrible at literature too. Maybe I'll try snagging it for an upcoming trip. Plane entertainment!
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Date: 2013-05-14 02:32 am (UTC)IT'S BEAUTIFUL and endless words are never a problem, especially for a start. Especially with AC characters being the stubborn bastards they are. I'll tag immediately!
It's ironic because I spent my entire English major doing nothing but literature and accompanying analysis. On the other hand, it was mostly 19th century Britlit. That balances out somewhere, I think.
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Date: 2013-05-14 02:34 am (UTC)That does kind of work. I spent most of my creative writing major doing nothing but bullshitting my way through papers, which is amazingly useful for RP :|b
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Date: 2013-05-14 02:43 am (UTC)PRETTY MUCH. That was the entirety of every lit analysis paper I did. I should have stuck with it, I could probably be trolling academia with the stupidest theories by now if I had. OH WELL.
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Date: 2013-05-14 03:29 am (UTC)That is the essence of every lit paper and that's just as it should be. Comes in handy in my actual job too now that I think of it. IT'S FOR THE BEST, ACADEMIA IS LIKE CAMELOT: A SILLY PLACE.
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Date: 2013-06-19 01:16 am (UTC)Eeeexcellent. I look forward to future things!
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Date: 2013-08-30 01:36 am (UTC)And I did/do have a couple of ideas!
1. Another "touch the Apple, get a shade of Robert" thing a few years down the line for her, because I kind of like the idea of him as a ghost of Christmas past that still challenges her changed beliefs. And because I think it would be funny if Darim were visibly a work-in-progress at the time, because I am easily amused, I admit.
2. Maybe something a few years earlier, or during AC1, with her still as the loyal steward. Though this could involve either frantic perusals of wikipedia or a heaping load of bullshit because I'm learning but not that educated about the military during the Crusades.
3. There's an Assassin's Creed meme here on bakerstreet (and a thread for Maria here.)
So yeah, let me know if any/all of the above appeal to you. Hopefully I haven't been irreparably assdraggy. c:
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Date: 2013-08-30 02:03 am (UTC)1. I'd be game for that! He'd be great in that role, really. Reminding her of how terrible/great the past was and judging her for making out with the enemy. To the point of having children. Expect him to try and turn the kid to his side of thinking. (I'll admit I don't know a lot about the kids, since I've stuck mostly to the main games and it's been a while since I touched Revelations, so if there's anything I should know ahead of time let me know. Otherwise I'll scan the AC wiki.)
2. Also up for this, and also agreeing on it involving piles and piles of BS. Again, the vast majority of my Crusade-era knowledge is pulled from Kingdom of Heaven, Wikipedia, and various Crusade-era historical fiction books, so, uh ... wikipedia is probably the best bet. But I would love them being team templar together; plotting how best to maneuver around this murderous assassin offing top men left and right, maybe, or something similar? It could involve sparring. I always like a good fight scene.
3. Oh, I missed that one! I'll look at it and see if I can get a good idea off the prompts, see if there's something we can roll with there.
NEVER FEAR, I drag my ass on almost everything in life so it's never a problem for me. :3
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Date: 2013-08-30 02:37 am (UTC)1. Sob, and that is in itself terrible/great, especially as a recurring thing. I was thinking the next incident could possibly be when she's starting to pop out for a fun "OH DAMMIT MARIA TELL ME THAT'S NOT WHAT I THINK IT IS" sort of thing.
There's really nothing we know about the kids, other than that Darim was a hottie with Maria's eyes, Sef made them early grandparents, and both were Assassins. Oh and Darim was the one to actually kill Genghis Khan, but he didn't rate a statue, the guy who only shot his horse did. Revelations and the novel skipped almost everything regarding their happier times as a family, which is a shame, but so is the back half of Revelations :T A friend and I like to say that the whole cavalcade of misery there is just some illusion/hallucination caused by the Apple and I'm not always sure we're joking OKAY TANGENT OVER
2. Another good source is a British friend with a more extensive education in that era. Conveniently, I've got one, but they're in rather short supply. I still need to watch Kingdom of Heaven, though...and heck, I do need one more item in my Amazon basket. Done. But yes, it'd be fun to play a more idealistic (sorta) Maria.
3. And I will roll with whatever!
DRAGGING ASS: A way of life! The meme might be a logical first one since it's just been posted, but beyond that we could tackle these in whatever order, it's all fun. :3
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Date: 2013-08-30 02:59 am (UTC)1. That'd be a terrible time for him to show up, which means it's ideal as far as I'm concerned and I say we go for it. Altair conveniently off doing his Assasinleader things, or whatever he was doing in the time before the actual family started? Could leave room for some interesting bitterness all around.
AHAHA hey that's a perfectly viable option. Those artifacts do seem to do nothing but spread misery for everyone whenever they show up. Cursed or just left-over first era trolling, maybe.
2. That works too! And I have to have a few Crusade-era books around here. I managed to miss the one class a few years ago that I could have taken specifically about the era, to my eternal bitterness, but over the years we've managed to accumulate more random books than is probably healthy around here so I can dig through and see what I can find. Robert was probably just as much a jerk back then, but as far as Maria went, I'd imagine well-intentioned jerkness.
I've got a long weekend coming up so I can probably go with any of these, whichever you'd prefer. At the moment I'm not coming up with anything off the meme, though it's been a hell of a week so that's probably more braindead than anything else.
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Date: 2013-09-05 02:01 am (UTC)I think it may have been Japanese customer service at work, so they'd probably do the same for you. It was an interesting experience, I can say that much. An interesting, exciting, panic-sweaty experience.
1. Yeah he could be either off on some leaderly mission, or just down below doing other Assassin work while she sits and gestates. In my headcanon, Maria terrorizes the novices during sword training, but precautions and all that. If I don't get a starting post up tonight I'll endeavor to do so tomorrow. Enjoy seeing your slightly rounder protege, Zombie Robert.
2. Oh man that sounds SO COOL. Ill be bitter that I missed it too even though I'm sure I never went anywhere that had one. Probably. In the meantime my Kingdom of Heaven blu-ray arrived yesterday so maybe I'll put that in this week while I clean my living room...or maybe I'll just watch the movie.
Sorry I skipped the long weekend entirely! Part of it was eaten up by the renfaire here. I usually see at least once AC cosplayer there each visit, and this was no exception—there was an Ezio with some very nice armor accents on the outfit. Altaïr's pretty common too. Next year I want to see if I can have a Maria outfit for it. Good times, good times.
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